sexplorer338 days ago

The Kinsey Institute would be a great reference, but I'm not convinced that they found that women are bicurious to bisexual. I want a link or your downvote stays.

Kyle Miracle338 days ago

I think it's kind of funny that NeurOG and I each got negative points here...as if we took time out of our lives to pull stuff out our asses just to fool some anon people online.

And use your head sexplorer, it takes very little skill, knowledge or experience to be a skeptic.

COLTOR304 days ago

"it takes very little skill, knowledge or experience to be a skeptic." ...or a believer.

"They found that it's written in to a woman's DNA."..."All women are at a minimum bicurious to bisexual." bullshit:

7% of single females (ages 20–35) and 4% of previously married females (ages 20–35) were given a rating of 3 (bisexual) on Kinsey Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale for this period of their lives.
Source: Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, Table 142, p. 499

However, Dual Induction Massage does sound pretty amazing to receive.

oohlookasquirrel298 days ago

Because no women have stepped up to comment yet, I feel obligated to say that a guy trying to "lead me" into a threesome and was "confident that it was going to happen" would come across as a cocky asshole I would never consider sleeping with, whether or not a third party was present. Especially if he was also trying to "lead" another girl at the same time. I'd be more likely to go fuck the girl somewhere else and let the asshole guy sit at home by himself. Unless you met your two females on a sexual matchmaking website on which they both said they are at least bi-curious and would like to be sexually dominated, I think this plan is shitty. and that "Next time you'll know to make sure before joining in" line? It sounds a little too much like "You ate the dinner I bought you at an expensive restaurant, therefore you owe me sex" line. Nobody owes you any sex, and anybody is free to stop a sexual encounter anytime they don't want to be a part of it anymore. Of course there are women who like to be sexually dominated, but you can't just assume that every woman is one of them. This post makes me very uneasy. If I were alone in a room with NeurOG, I would be reaching for the pepper spray.

I can't deny that being sexually dominated can be fun, but only with a partner I trust with my life. That sort of partner generally doesn't spring a brand new sex act on me without discussing it on a prior occasion.

sexpert297 days ago

Yeah, sorry, consent and pleasure are super important. If you aren't interested in either of those things for your partner, then you shouldn't be having sex. Period.

Sorry, but this post is really disgusting. As a girl, I fear guys that expect my sexuality to fit their preconceived notions, and don't care when I say no.

Now, as oohlookasquirrel said, if this was a role play, or consented to before they came over, then consent and pleasure are both being taken into account, and everything is good. So yeah... oohlookasquirrel is right.

Kyle Miracle297 days ago

I see where you are coming from oohlookasquirrel and again, I think this is an issue of perspective. Truly leading a person does not mean persuading them to do something they do not want to do; leading a person includes making that person WANT to follow.

Your response that "a guy trying to lead you...would come across as a cocky asshole," just tells me that you don't respect him as a leader and thus you will not follow. That's your personality, just understand that is the exception to the rule here; most women will not respond that way. Most women are intrigued by spontaneity and surprises.

The very best way I've seen to provoke a girl-girl-guy threesome is to instigate a small degree of jealousy. Get both girls to compete for my attention in a fun and positive way. This is not the type of situation that needs to be discussed in advance, but it can be discussed. This is an emotional decision and discussions are for logical decisions, so discussing this in advance can be counterproductive.

Guys, you MUST recognize however, that not all girls are down for these types of endeavors and that is OK. You've got to accept her choice not to be a part of this.


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sexpert297 days ago

"Be dominant, but not dominating. Tell one to kiss the other, or to lick her ass. If she objects and says "Well I don't know if she's clean" then counter with this: "Next time you'll know to make sure before joining in. Now eat it." And put her face in the other's snatch.'

What he's talking about there is sexual assault. Physically forcing a woman to eat another woman out when she has already said no is not okay. If any guy tried to force my face into another girl's pussy or ass when I already said no for legitimate reasons, I would call the police on him. I'm serious.

What you're talking about Kyle is being confident, and smooth, and facilitating the threesome, which is okay. What NeuroG described, is sexual assault.

oohlookasquirrel297 days ago

Kyle, I can see how in perfect circumstances, your plan could be a whole lot of fun. My problem with it is that there is SO much that could go wrong. I suppose a lot of this hinges on the type of threesome you want to have. Do you want to have sex with two women just the once without caring if you'll ruin a friendship or two in the process? Things will be a lot easier that way, but you may not get everything you want out of the threesome. Do you want to make sure that everyone genuinely wants to have sex with everyone else and leaves feeling good about the experience and willing to do it again in the future? That's not likely to happen spontaneously. I may just have higher expectations for a successful threesome. As much as I like spontaneity, if you want everyone to get off (something that is necessary for my own enjoyment), you're probably going to need to go into the encounter with some knowledge about each person's desires, boundaries, arousal patterns, health status, etc. Yes, these are my personal preferences, but I find it difficult to believe that the average woman likes spontaneity so much that she'll enjoy having sex with someone she's jealous of in order to please the guy she's crushing on.

The jealousy thing bugs me because it seems a little too much like offering a girl one too many drinks to get her to sleep with you. Sure, both women might be the sort of people who would have gone along with the threesome anyway and just needed a little spontaneous push to get things going, but in many cases, you might just be pressuring someone to participate in something they're not really comfortable with.
Maybe I'm just unusual in that I really need to know that all participants in a sex act are having a really good time in order for me to enjoy myself, but I don't think I could enjoy a sex act in which two people are just groping one another because they're trying to win the affection of a third person. I might like to have a threesome with two guys, but I'm not going to pressure them to make out with or go down on each other just because it might turn me on and I think I might be able to lead them down that road. It would only be hot if they genuinely wanted to do it and didn't need to be pressured into it. Maybe most women would love an excuse to share the guy they want to fuck with another woman and I'm just bizarrely conservative on the issue. I suppose we need a formal, scientific study to get a better idea of what the "average woman" wants.

I think everybody enjoys surprises and spontaneity, regardless of whatever they have in their pants, but there are acceptable degrees of spontaneity. Bringing out a new sex toy or position or place to have sex? Probably not going to offend anyone. Just plunging into anal sex without asking first? Not very nice, to put it mildly. Sure, maybe she was just waiting for you to initiate anal sex, but there's a very good chance that your surprise will not have the desired outcome. I believe that a surprise threesome is in a class of surprises that should only be sprung if a prior interest has been expressed (in a "would you ever?" sort of way, not necessarily in a "would you Friday night?" way). It doesn't have to be planned down to the very detail and can still be completely spontaneous, but it greatly reduces the chances that you're going to offend someone.

In the end, I guess, like everything else, it comes down to a few basic sexual truths for me: everyone is different, generalizations are often wrong, sexual consent is a must, and sex is a whole lot better for all parties involved when everybody is genuinely interested in whatever they're doing and nobody is being pressured (emotionally or physically) into anything.

scarlettewiththerope297 days ago

Guys, you inspired a post! How about a general debate on pick up artist theories? You know... exactly where does it all go wrong?

http://www.leftos.com/forum/view/356

sexpert295 days ago

Hear hear oohlookasquirrel. I feel the exact same way, so if we're both prudes, let's be prudes together. I can tell you that there have been situations where I have established with a couple beforehand that a threesome would be nice, and then we hang out a couple times, and on one of those times, everything just falls into place: the mood is right, us two girls are not on the rag, none of us have school/work the next day, and one thing leads to another. It still felt spontaneous and pleasant, and yet we all discussed and had consent first.

oohlookasquirrel298 days ago

I'm afraid this situation is asking for trouble. If I were in this situation and I didn't already know that the other people I was with were already up for a threesome, I would likely look at the guy flirting with two girls at once and think "oh, he just flirts with everyone, I don't really want to date that guy, so I'm just intruding on his chances to be alone with the other girl. I'll leave them alone now." Your "jealousy" technique is very likely to backfire if you're basically pressuring someone into doing something they're not comfortable with. Then again, I don't get naked with people unless I trust them already. I'm sure there are girls out there who are willing to take more risks.

I think the better strategy here is to find a partner you know and discuss what you'd both like out of the threesome, and then find a third party you're both attracted to. Wouldn't it be a lot more fun if both females actually liked touching one another and weren't just playing along because they thought they might "miss out" otherwise?